06: Redefining Success Through Joy with Sue Squire

Chad:               And in this episode we’re going to discuss the secrets to having more joy and how to recognize the small but significant moments in our life that add up to overall joy in our lives and make a huge difference overall. So join me in welcoming to the show Sue Squire.

New Speaker:   Hey, thanks for having me, Chad.

New Speaker:   Yeah. Sue has such an amazing story of overcoming several health challenges and why this is relevant to our show is because we’re all about disconnecting from patterns and habits and things that are holding us back in our life and how to connect our way to where we want to be and sue has a story that she’s going to tell us about how she disconnected from certain habits and certain things in her life that were holding her back and causing her health issues and how she then connected her way to a better state of health, a better state of happiness, and she has some great tips that she’s going to share with us on how to find joy in our life.

Chad:               Because success, we talk about finding career success in this show, but to to a lot of people are career as much more than just your job and a career is. Success can be defined in a lot of ways and it’s not just about the money you’re earning. It’s not just about financial success. Success is also about gaining. Getting into a state of life balance where you are having joy and where you are happy and where your satisfied with your life, so we’re going to hear about how sue has found ways that she is finding joy in her life and that she’s finding success and the ways that it meet and the ways that success means to her and so I’m excited to kind of hear about her health story as well because we talk about the mind, we talk about how to, how to adjust our mindset and the way that we talk to ourselves in order to get to where we want to be in our life and we’re going to talk a bit about that, but also when we take care of our body and when we improve our physical health, that also opens up the channels of communication within us and when we are healthy physically, we will have better focus.

Chad:               Skills will be more productive. Will we? We will have higher job performance. We will have better relationships because we will be better at communicating with people when our physical state is at a higher place as well. So it’s absolutely relevant to everything we talk about in this show. And so sue, welcome to the show. We’re excited to have you. And if you could just kinda tell us a little bit about your story of transformation, your, your health story. How did you overcome those health challenges and what did your self talk has to do with your ability to transform your health? All

Sue:                 right. Yeah, it’s something, you know, all. Growing up I didn’t really think that health mattered all that much. I mean, of course health matter, do you know that I wasn’t sick all the time or stuff, but I had no idea how much it really affected just my emotional wellbeing as far as how I felt about myself and my life and, and so, you know, and I just, I grew up in a big family and I just, you know, eight and did what I was provided and told and everything. And then as I moved on into college and was on my own and started really trying to figure out, okay, who am I, you know, and how do I want to live and Phil about myself here and I’m, I start, you know, I had always struggled with weight growing up as a teenager. I was, you know, not like obese or anything but definitely overweight and definitely not feeling the best, you know, and I was able to.

Sue:                 Then I got married and I had children and then my life started just really going down and it was really hard. I started to dispel very, um, physically ill. I had tons and tons of migraines and just all kinds of other issues that I can’t even, don’t even really remember all that much, but I was not feeling well. And I was especially very. I’m very depressed. Finally it hit me. It’s like I don’t want to just keep feeling this way and just keep medicating myself or just keep eating to just function. I wanted to try and figure out a way to, to thrive, you know, and actually really enjoy living. And I started turning to wholefoods and finding out how powerful of a medicine they are, both physically and emotionally and over the process of time I was able to come off of these antidepressants all by myself.

Sue:                 I lost over 70 pounds and I have not had, you know, a sinkhole migraine and years and just been able to really feel like vibrant and happy and healthy because the things that I choose to eat, I know are going to give me that, that energy and that health and that strength and really make me just feel good. And also another thing is like, even if I choose to eat something that I know maybe isn’t the best, like a big Brownie or something like that, I don’t beat myself up for it anymore. I enjoy the Brownie. I enjoy that opportunity to just, you know, if I’m with friends or family or something. And that’s probably been one of the biggest things too, is not only just shifting what foods I choose to eat, but how I feel about eating those foods.

Chad:               Wow. Well, it sounds like you, you’re disconnected from a few different things. You’re disconnected from eating habits that were affecting your health. You disconnected from certain self. Talk about blaming yourself and feeling guilty for eating certain foods and  just not loving yourself enough. And, and, and, and, and when you disconnected from those things, then you connected to better foods, you connected to better self talk, you connected to a better mindset. And so this wasn’t, seems like it’s, it’s not just about you even just eating better foods. That was a huge part of it and what we eat, what we take into our bodies, what we take into our minds, it’s all going to affect our happiness and our overall energy and our wellbeing. Um, but it seems like there was a very, uh, you kind of approach it in a very holistic way where there are several things that we’re working on at once and, and that’s um, that’s really inspirational. You know, that it’s, it’s, it wasn’t just necessarily one thing, but it was a couple of things that then like what, what, what was the first change you made that then led to other changes? Was it the mind? Was it the physical or emotional? What was the first? Um,

Sue:                 I would say, I mean, it kind of had to be that, that mindset of like, I do not want to keep feeling this way and if food is part of what’s making me feel that way, then yes, I need to change the food. But I had to believe first that I could, you know, I had tried so many diets here and there and everything like that and it just came to the point of there has to be some other way, but I had to believe that there was another way, you know, otherwise I would’ve just kept going on diets and vote that was not for me, not for me, not for me. I had to find and really believed that there was something for me. And so I had to believe that, you know, I could actually live really well. And so I think going into them changing what foods I ate with that mindset help that actually work for me, you know, and because I was able to really believe and then I actually saw the results. I mean, when the pounds started coming off, that was one thing. Yeah, that’s like what a cool, you know, but the most important is like, Whoa, I actually want to get up in the mornings and spend time with my kids. Now you know, just that, that energy that changed, that vibe that goes along with this. Like, look what I can do in comparison to doing it. Can’t do that anymore. You know? There’s just such a difference. It just makes me just feel like I like that other one better. I’m going to go with that.

Chad:               Yeah. What? You just taught me something that the first step from disconnecting from things that are interfering with our success, interfering with our life, interfering with our health is to decide that you don’t want a certain thing anymore, that the thing you’re connected to that is hurting you. You made a decision that you didn’t want that anymore and that seemed like that was the, that was the very first step was wow, I don’t want to feel like this anymore. And that’s powerful. That, that, that, that simple choice is kind of plants the seed. And then, as you said, then we gain then, then I had to believe in myself enough. But do you feel that maybe at first or belief wasn’t huge but it was enough to get going and then that belief expanded over time. Tell me a little bit about that.

Sue:                 Oh yeah. It definitely is. Yeah. Because it’s like I said, I struggled with this for years and it’s like, yeah, right. Just changing this one way is really not going to make that big of a difference. But as I started to see that it was making a difference, then that belief just expanded, you know? And I like to set it like tell my kids a lot and stuff, you know, sometimes you have to know what you don’t want in order to know what you do want. And that’s exactly what it was. I did not want to keep feeling all depressed and just low energy and like why am I even living anymore? I knew I didn’t want that, so I had to find another way. And the only way to do that is to not keep doing what I was doing. Both how I felt and talk to myself and how I ate and how I just lived and did everything and so yeah, it was, you know, it’s like that little thing you planned to see and nourish it and it’s going to grow.

Chad:               That’s wonderful because I hope all of you watching and listening have just taken that really important seed of knowledge that sue just shared with us that you don’t need a ton of belief in yourself to get started. She had just enough of a desire to change and to stop feeling a certain way and she had just enough of a belief to get going to start eating some healthier foods, but then as she started implementing those little things, that momentum helped her belief to grow and and that’s. And that’s really cool how you were. I’m just talking about how you. It’s like it was this reinforcing cycle where you implemented one thing and then it took some effort to implement it just a little bit, but then implementing it gave you more energy to then implement another thing in a bigger thing and eventually you were able to implement more and more little things over time and it was that consistent effort that gave you this full transformation in your health and that throughout the whole thing.

Chad:               You had to keep talking. Even if you didn’t realize that you had to keep talking yourself through that whole thing because you weren’t going to lose all that weight and transform your health overnight, but you had to keep telling yourself that every day you were getting closer and closer and it’s the way that you’re communicating with yourself that helped you to stay in it and be patient with the process. Because it sounds like you were claiming your little successes all along the way. That you weren’t just having the big goal and you had the big vision of where he wanted to be in your health. But all these little successes of, oh, I just ate some more vegetables today, or Oh, I just took a walk today. Those little successes. When you claimed those, it, it seems like it gave you momentum that helped you to continue forward down that track. Would you. Would you agree with that?

Sue:                 Oh yeah, exactly. Yeah, that’s exactly right. Because it’s like, yeah, I didn’t just see the end goal and it’s like, okay, I’m not there until I’m there. I was able to see, oh, I’m here now. I’m here now. I’m here. You know, every little step along the way. Exactly was another step closer to where I was going and it actually then even opened up what the end goal was. Made that even bigger, more full of possibility that I couldn’t have even imagined, you know, but because I was taking all these little steps along the way and finding the joy and the gratitude and the success in the bows, it made what I was working towards. Even more exciting. You can have greater success when you enjoy every little bit and morsel and peace and step along the way than just waiting to get somewhere. Yes,

Chad:               exactly. That’s it. You win when you have enthusiasm. There are no walls. You get where you want to be. You bust right through those challenges and it sounds like, just like what you said, it seems like you figured out how to have joy along the way. Life isn’t about just hitting some endpoint. We have these checkpoints have certain goals you want to achieve, but once we’re there we’re just going to set a new goal and we’re just gonna keep. So we’re in a constant state of going somewhere new. Right? We never get to a place and then we just stop in. Our life has done and now we’ve achieved everything and now we just sit there. But so if you can’t enjoy the journey as you’re going towards a certain goal, once you hit that goal, then you’re not going to enjoy that either because you’re never going to be in that state of just total total stillness. So that’s.

Sue:                 That is, that’s the whole step of just enjoying that journey along the way and just finding it and then, and then that journey changes to you no more sin to something that you couldn’t have even imagined if all you said is no heading straight to New York and straight back. Nothing there, you know. And so, you know, and that’s kind of what you know, I wrote my book about to, you know, the abcs of joyful living is simple ways to create joy every day, rick cardless of your circumstances. Because if you’re living every day and every moment has a successful point along your path, then you’re just living in complete success

Chad:               all the time.

Sue:                 Yeah. All the time. Constant success, you know? And that may not be the success of like, okay, yeah, I got the million dollars and I’m the CEO of this company and doing all this and I can, you know, but if, if every little moment is like, you know, if you can just, yes, I got out of bed today, or yes, I went for a walk and say yes, they had this green smoothie. I mean, he just, those little things just build yourself up that you just feel so successful, even though maybe the world isn’t saying, Oh, you are such a success. If you feel successful and you’re taking those steps and you’re creating that joy, you’re successful.

Chad:               Yes. You get to define what success is for you. So if you haven’t reached success, then you got to redefine success and you get to choose whatever you want that definition to be. And at the golden nugget that I just got from you is that it’s not about just enjoying getting things done, but it’s about enjoying the doing, you know, it’s about, it’s about enjoying the, the, doing along the way. It’s about enjoying the whole process. Sometimes we get so fixated on just getting things done and we’re like, Oh yes, finally I can check that off. I got that done. Um, but then there’s always more things to get done so we’re never satisfied. But if we enjoy the doing, then we’re always going to be satisfied. Now that doesn’t mean that we become complacent. We’re not continually trying to improve ourselves or we’re not continually trying to improve our life.

Chad:               The the joy aspect of it is only coming because you’re in a constant state of progress. We we feel the greatest joy when we are progressing in some way in our own personal development and our own health and our career, when we’re progressing, when we’re constantly trying to improve ourselves, when we’re in that state of improvement and in that journey, in that progress state, that’s where we experienced the most joy. So if we only define our joy is when we hit certain marks. When we achieve certain goals along the way, the man that’s like 10 minutes of our whole entire life is where we’ll actually experienced joy. Those momentary seconds where you get to check something off and everything else in between. That is where the real joy is and so thank you for sharing that in your, in your whole kind of transformation in your story, you talked about the how you kind of gained even more, more of a belief over time. We talked about a little bit how you just kind of talk yourself into it and your self talk health as well, but how did the support from other people help in your health transformation as well? And how are those relationships important?

Sue:                 Yeah. Um, I think one of, well first one of the greatest supports was actually just my children. You know, who they started to see in me. Like, oh mom is actually kind of happy now she’s, you know, she’s not being so, so mean to us. And she’s, she’s looking good, she’s feeling good, you know, and so just actually that to me was just, you know, and they still continue to be that to really. I mean they are some of my greatest supporters to really point out some times and then it’s just been some good friends along this journey. That was another step that is like I got into yoga. So then I, you know, and this whole new community with teachers there that are all kind of in the same supportive, you know, mindset of, you know, I’ve just really improving and not only just physically but emotionally, mentally, spiritually, all of that. And so finding, you know, and that’s the thing too, as I really started to find myself and feel good about myself. It’s not like I had to go, oh, well now you know, where do I go, how I don’t have any friends or what it’s like, I just, those opportunities opened up to meet these people that supported me in this.

Chad:               That’s wonderful. It seems like you’ve, it’s like you made it, you made one connection and then these people helped connect you to something else and then now all of a sudden you’re taking on these different roles in your life and you know, teaching Yoga and, and, and it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s amazing to see how, like you said, you started with my kids. We’re a support. You know, it’s like my family’s was four. Then I had these friends that were support and, and, and, and all of these, all these people that were supporting you helped to kind of fuel that belief within you that helped you change and, and that’s really amazing. How did, uh, how did having people. Were there people that were helping, holding that, that helps to hold you accountable to the change and then likewise, were there people that were interfering and how did that influence or change along the way? You don’t have to like say who, but just like, did you have a bit of both or.

Sue:                 Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And I think, you know, there probably were some that were helping me be accountable, but more so as just myself again, just kind of that checking in with myself is like, okay, you’re feeling this way again? Do you really like that? Oh No, no, no, no. Yeah, I like this way better, you know, and pull there. And then like I say, when you meet those other people that really support that, you know, you want to stay in that connection. And so just the relationship itself is kind of an accountability thing. You know, and, and then, yeah, there were some others too though, just like we’re like, you know, almost scared of the change because it’s like, well, who are you? You’re not the person I grew up with, you’re not the person I married or whatnot, you know, and it just kind of like, you know, and, and that’s the thing too that I was, you know, one hard part of learning to let go of people that were supporting me in how I really wanted to be.

Sue:                 Part of that is letting go of thoughts and people and places and situations that drag us down into who we don’t want to be, but that’s not like, oh nope, cut ties. Never go there. Again. It’s looking at that with gratitude for like, thank you for helping me see that I don’t want to be there. You know, I want to be here. I can still love you and I can still appreciate you, but I can’t really love and appreciate you as much as I need to. If I can’t love and appreciate myself as much as I need to, you know, I do better for you when I’m better for me, you know? And so as we really, because then then we opened the space for them to also see, I guess maybe I don’t want to feel this way too. And you know, we opened up that space and that opportunity for them. Does that make sense?

Chad:               Yeah, definitely. That you bring, you bring up an interesting thing that we all experience that. Um, so in this show we love talking about how we need to disconnect from things or people that are holding us back and connect to the things or people that will move us forward. And you just brought up how there were certain people that you needed to disconnect from, that you needed to kind of sever that connection that were holding you back is you’re trying to make this change and then you connect it to new people that we’re helping to support you and you and we all have to experience this at some point that if we’re trying to make a change, um, it’s interesting how we can have friends that are afraid of us changing just like you brought up. And I want to ask you, why do you think that sometimes that our friends sometimes are afraid of us making a change in our life and changing?

Sue:                 Well, I think ultimately is because they’re afraid of making that change in themselves and they don’t quite know how to do it. You know, I say like everyone that we see and that we project onto is basically just a mirror of ourselves, you know? And so it’s like when people are saying, no, you can’t do that, you’re not strong enough to do that or whatnot. It’s almost like we’re really saying that to ourselves. Oh yeah. I, I kind of want that change, but I, I know that’s gonna be too hard, you know, I can’t not eat my sneakers every day or I can’t not, you know, be here or whatever. And so sometimes you know, and that’s, and that’s, it’s nothing bad. Everyone is on their own path, on their own, you know, step along the journey. And that’s part of what’s so wonderful about having people in our lives is we get to experience them at different phases and steps and we get to be there at different phases and steps along that journey ourselves.

Chad:               Yeah, no, it’s, it’s so true that, uh, we, we have, you know, even if it’s a friend we’ve had our whole life, sometimes they say we’re both struggling with the same issue either we’re both in debt are both overweight or whatever it is. And uh, we find comfort a lot of times having friends that have our same problems because then we don’t feel alone in it. And um, and like you were talking about that it’s sometimes it makes them uncomfortable and you’re like, Hey, I’m going to, I’m going to lose all this weight. I’m gonna make this change. I’m going to improve this part of my life. And then your friends, like, oh, okay, cool. You know, and they’re kind of like not really supportive and it’s not that they’re, you know, they love you and they care about you, but subconsciously beneath it all at the not even realizing they’re afraid to change and they think that if you change without them, you’re going to leave them behind.

Chad:               And also they don’t have the belief that they can change as well. And there’s all sorts. There’s also so many worries that go into somebody’s mind when a friend of theirs wants to make a change that they don’t want to make yet or that they’re afraid of making or they don’t believe they can make. And what a good opportunity for you to be able to help that friend be an accountability buddy and make that change along with you. And if they’re not ready yet, and if they don’t want to make that change, then the least you can do is have a conversation with them and just ask them to become a supporter, you know, turn your naysayer friend into a supporter. There’s no reason to immediately sever the connection. Sometimes they’re toxic people that we need to disconnect from. Other times, we just need to have a conversation with that person and give them a chance to support us and give them a chance to decide to support us in our change.

Chad:               Even if they don’t want to make the change yet. And we just need to get it all out in the open because we can just assume that they are afraid because they don’t want to make the change as well. So we can literally just have a conversation with them and tell them, hey, I want to make this change and I understand that you’re not ready yet to make this change. And that’s okay. And I, I still love you and I, and I want you to be my friend. I need to make this change right now. Can you support me in this? Can you support me in this change? And, and literally just have that diplomatic loving conversation with them and I think I think people will be surprised at how often your friends that you think are becoming toxic, that now you need to disconnect from our now your biggest supporters, all because of one conversation and we need to at least give them that chance.

Chad:               I mean expect because our relationships are important and, and these, these friendships that we’ve had are, are really important and then they’re adding to our life. Now if you have that conversation, if you attempt to turn them into a supporter and they really, and they just don’t and they just can’t at all find it in them to support you, then you have to consider disconnecting that relationship even if it’s just temporarily and maybe later down the road that you enter back into the relationship. Who knows? But it’s worth giving people that chance. Um, but yeah, so I’m glad you. Yeah. So I’m glad you bring that up because it’s, it’s, it’s something we, if anyone watching this show is experiencing the same thing where they’re trying to make some change and they have friends that they’re not sure if they support them or not, or family members that aren’t supporting you. Apply what sue just taught us, apply what sue just taught us about, uh, just, just knowing when to sever that connection, but also also maybe giving people a chance.

Sue:                 Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. The people in our lives. Yeah. Like you say, there are some toxic ones that you just have to do, but the main thing is, is you have to take care of you and a best, one of the best ways to take care of you is to actually have people that don’t support you because then can you still stay strong in supporting yourself? You know, that that’s a, that’s kind of a little gift that some of these people give us. It’s like, okay, so maybe you’re not my biggest supporter, but I’m still supporting me. I can still do this and you can still be in my life and I don’t have to lose myself or that, you know, and so if we can see the little gift in, in that, you know, because yeah, it would be easiest. Like, Oh yeah, you’ve been friends with me forever.

Sue:                 I guess I’ll just stay here and be fat and miserable and, and we’ll just continue enjoying our life here. But you know, are you really enjoying that? If you’re feeling this call to change and, and you want to do it and you start seeing these steps, you know, and like you say, ultimately, hopefully that friend will start to see like, hey, maybe I, you do look a lot happier. You’re more fun to be around. What are you doing, you know, and stuff. And some will, some will join us and do it. Others won’t. And that’s okay because they’re at their place and they need to be there and we need to support them there too. Just as much as we’re asking them to support us in their own way. They’re asking us to them. And the best way to do that is to allow them to be where they’re at, but not let them keep us from where we want to be.

Chad:               Yes. To, to keep loving them where they’re at, you know, we, I mean, this applies to a marriage or applies to any relationship or a prize to a friendship that we need to believe in and see the potential that people have and help them to get there. But we need to love them with where they’re at. We need to not give it conditions where it’s like, okay, I’ll love you once you’re. Once you finally make this change or once you finally get to this place in your own self development, you know, we, we have to be able to love people where they’re at and sometimes we have those friends that we need to just be like, okay, I’m going to continue loving you with where you’re at. As long as you can continue loving me with where I’m going.

Sue:                 Exactly.

Chad:               And that you can support me with where I’m going. And that’s so key. So we have a few more minutes with, with you. What are a couple, two to three key tips for finding more joy in our life?

Sue:                 You know, we’ve, we’ve talked a lot about this and it is just being able to accept the fact that there is joy in everything, you know, that’s like, no, you can’t have, that’s not true. You know, joy’s only in these big, great, awesome moments. It’s not, it’s in the little things, you know. And so just being able to open up and to see that joy is in the details and the little tiny things. And then when you see it in those little things, it expands into these great big things. And then another thing I would say and this one thing and in my big disconnecting from the thoughts of, you know, shame and guilt and blame and stuff like that, I connected to meditation and being able to, you know, turn inward more and really connect to those peaceful, joyful thoughts of just being. And so that’s been a big key too is just, you know, and sometimes even it’s just that quick little thought that can help me change.

Sue:                 And meditation has helped me do that. And meditation itself isn’t as important the amount of time that you do it, but it’s because you do it that you can then react better throughout the whole rest of the day with whatever interactions and connections you have. It’s like, you know, my son comes at me with something and I’m like, because I meditated, I’m able to more commonly handled things with that. So meditation is a big thing. And then also just the physical movement of being in your body, like I say yoga or a walk or anything like that, or dance just it’s amazing the joyful connection we have when our mind and our body and our spirit kind of come together and all of the little pieces. And you know, a lot of times we think it’s like going out, I’ve got to just work really hard here and get all this done and we never go out anywhere. But going out and just moving in our bodies. And then ultimately to also nature. All you have to do is look to nature and you can’t help but feel some joy

Chad:               has a lot to teach us. Nature has a lot to teach us. It’s that, that is really wonderful advice about. I just want to kind of recap what sue just taught us about how to find joy because it really resonated with me how we, we don’t always find joy in these huge, dramatic, intense, brief moments of our life, but it’s in these small, subtle things that if we can appreciate those small subtle things, uh, that is where a lot of the joy is. And over time those small things can become really big things as well. But we need to appreciate those small moments in those small things. We find joy in just like going out into nature and appreciating the scenery and seeing what nature has to teach us. Nature can teach us so much about balance and how to have balance in our own life if we just pay attention to it. And um, and then what you said about meditation and just, uh, it got me thinking how in meditation we’re disconnecting and reconnecting at the same time. All right. We’re, we’re disconnecting from all the noise, but then we’re connecting to ourself and we’re connecting to our core and we’re connecting to that realm of kind of piece. Like would you agree with that?

Sue:                 Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Meditation is a very. I liked how you said that as a disconnect to connect kind of thing, you know, and, and just then you really are able to tune into that and experience that joy and then take that with you throughout all the unseemingly not joyful things and events of the day, but because you have connected, you know, then you are able to see nature and you are able to move in a way that is just joyful.

Chad:               Yeah. Yeah. And I, I talk about this a lot, how it’s these, these and so in the morning we need to have a good morning routine and a suit just hinted at a few things that we can do in our morning routine through physical movement meditation. What I like to do is I like to each morning I have 15 minutes where I calibrate my mind through, you know, envisioning my goals and, and, and talking to myself in a good way that’s helping me to kind of focus to maybe do a mind dump and get clutter out of my head or get worries out of my head. Um, I also, and then also giving my mind some education by reading a book and then also calibrating my body by physical exercise because when we call it, when we do that, when we move our body, we’re moving energy through us, which opens the channels, community channels of communication, and we’ll be able to focus better.

Chad:               We’ll be able to, which will increase our ability to communicate and build valuable relationships. It will, it will increase our ability to manage our time better and to improve our overall life. And that if we do the things that sue taught us, those kinds of things will help to calibrate our mindset and our energy in a way that will allow us to have joy throughout the day. Like you just said, you’re like, I love what you said about how like when you don’t do those things, it’s hard. You miss those moments. You miss those small moments that you need to find joy in because there’s so much buisiness in there. There’s all this noise in there that hasn’t been cleared out. And so taking that time for yourself to meditate, to go into nature, to move your body, um, helps you to recognize those small moments around along the way so that you can have joy in your career so you can have joy in your life.

Chad:               I’ve been having to learn this lesson over and over again because I have certain business goals as I grow my business and I have certain, bigger goal, vision stuff that I want to accomplish, but I’m realizing that if I don’t recognize all the little small things along the way and see those as successes, I burn out very quickly and I’ll give up and I can guarantee that’s why a lot of entrepreneurs give up, um, because they’re not claiming those small successes along the way. So I think that’s generally a theme of our discussion today about joy and just being able to find joy in all those small, wonderful life moments and as we do that we gain momentum that helps us to make a change or helps us to progress in our personal life and our relationships and in our career. And so thank you for, for sharing that advice with us.

Sue:                 Oh, thank you for letting me. Yeah, that’s been kind of my whole journey and like I say, I’m still on that, you know, and I still am finding all those little things, but it is, it is. And those little things and you know, even like in getting physical exercise, like you say, sometimes you know, people, it’s like, oh the only way is I have to go to the gym for three hours and work all that, you know, that’s, that’s a big thing. But if you could just, you know, even just walk outside or just get little steps along the way and just truly enjoying it. Then when you get to the gym and you work ask for three hours, it’s really great. You know, it’s not like this I have to go to the job type thing or whatnot, you know, and I’m not saying that’s what you have to do, but if you want to or you having these big work projects to do, you know, if, if you only see the success as getting there, you’re missing the success of going there and just every little step along the way is truly joyful and successful.

Chad:               Yeah, definitely. So to sum it all up, if we want to have joined our life, we have to have joy in the journey because we’ll always be in the journey. It’s not a life of just hitting these different end points will always be on a track towards somewhere new. So we have to enjoy the process and not just the angle. So sue, where can we find out more about you working with you? Find out more about your book so that we can learn from more from you how well my

Sue:                 book is available on Amazon. Like you said, it’s a, The ABC’s of Joyful Living, so you can just look it up there under. I’m sue Susan Squire. I guess it is, and then I’m also have a website, it’s called experiencejoyfulliving.com, and I’ve got a few blogs and things there and I’m going to be starting. I haven’t launched it yet, but I will hopefully soon have a podcast. It’s called a cup of joy and that’s where I’m just going to share a lot of these hacks, experiencing daily joyful events and every little thing.

Chad:               All right, well thank you so much and definitely go check out her book. Check out her website. There’s a lot that we can learn from sue and her journey and her experience in her wisdom. Thank you for coming on the show today.

New Speaker:   Thanks for having me. Pleasure.